Super Puma EC225 ditches in North Sea
XDgb14· 1 apr
April 1, 2009, 14:46 GMT
A major search for survivors is under way after a helicopter ditched in the North Sea off the coast of Scotland.
At least 16 people were believed to be on board the Bond Super Puma.
Coastguards said the incident happened about 40 miles north east of Aberdeen, just before 1400 BST, as the helicopter returned from BP's Miller field.
The operation includes two RAF rescue helicopters and an RAF Nimrod, as well as two local lifeboats. Other boats are also in the area.
Helicopter operator Bond confirmed one of its aircraft was involved in the incident.
The Maritime and Coastguard Agency said a supply vessel called Normand Aurora had put its fast response boat into the water and was looking for survivors.
"Two helicopters from the RAF have been scrambled to the scene and a Nimrod marine patrol aircraft has been diverted to the area," said a spokesman.
"Aberdeen Coastguard have begun broadcasting a mayday signal into the area. RNLI lifeboats from Peterhead and Fraserburgh are heading for the scene now.
"It is understood that there are 16 people on board the aircraft."
BP said: "Emergency teams are responding and the relevant authorities have been informed.
"BP's onshore emergency team has been mobilised and are assisting in the co-ordination of support services.
"We cannot confirm details of the incident at this stage. Our priority at this time is to manage the incident."
A spokeswoman for BAA Aberdeen said it was understood the helicopter had issued a mayday near Peterhead then ditched into the water.
The crash comes less than two months after a helicopter with 18 people on board ditched in the Etap field 125 miles east of Aberdeen.
All those on board the Super Puma survived the crash on 18 February.
Bron (BBC.co.uk)
14 REACTIESA major search for survivors is under way after a helicopter ditched in the North Sea off the coast of Scotland.
At least 16 people were believed to be on board the Bond Super Puma.
Coastguards said the incident happened about 40 miles north east of Aberdeen, just before 1400 BST, as the helicopter returned from BP's Miller field.
The operation includes two RAF rescue helicopters and an RAF Nimrod, as well as two local lifeboats. Other boats are also in the area.
Helicopter operator Bond confirmed one of its aircraft was involved in the incident.
The Maritime and Coastguard Agency said a supply vessel called Normand Aurora had put its fast response boat into the water and was looking for survivors.
"Two helicopters from the RAF have been scrambled to the scene and a Nimrod marine patrol aircraft has been diverted to the area," said a spokesman.
"Aberdeen Coastguard have begun broadcasting a mayday signal into the area. RNLI lifeboats from Peterhead and Fraserburgh are heading for the scene now.
"It is understood that there are 16 people on board the aircraft."
BP said: "Emergency teams are responding and the relevant authorities have been informed.
"BP's onshore emergency team has been mobilised and are assisting in the co-ordination of support services.
"We cannot confirm details of the incident at this stage. Our priority at this time is to manage the incident."
A spokeswoman for BAA Aberdeen said it was understood the helicopter had issued a mayday near Peterhead then ditched into the water.
The crash comes less than two months after a helicopter with 18 people on board ditched in the Etap field 125 miles east of Aberdeen.
All those on board the Super Puma survived the crash on 18 February.
Bron (BBC.co.uk)
Snatch· 1 aprZeer trieste dag :niet_bli:
Mijn gedachten zijn bij de nabestaanden en bij Bond die een zware tijd heeft.
3e ditch/crash in 1.5 maand... Slecht begin van het jaar.
Mijn gedachten zijn bij de nabestaanden en bij Bond die een zware tijd heeft.
3e ditch/crash in 1.5 maand... Slecht begin van het jaar.
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LNRalph· 1 apr
Eigenaardig, is er wat bekend over de vorige 'crash'?
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metrodriver· 2 apr10 doden, 6 vermist (23:00 news).
Bij het vorige incident in Februari heeft iedereen het overleeft.
Bij het vorige incident in Februari heeft iedereen het overleeft.
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rotorusa· 2 aprVierde ditch/crash helaas: S76 in GOM; Super Puma North Sea X2; S92 in Newfoundland. Wat nog verontrustender is: in zeker twee van de ongelukken lijkt er een mechanische oorzaak te zijn.
Een onmisbaar onderdeel dat er midden in de vlucht mee ophoudt is mijn grootste nachtmerrie.
Een onmisbaar onderdeel dat er midden in de vlucht mee ophoudt is mijn grootste nachtmerrie.
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Snatch· 2 aprrotorusa schreef:Vierde ditch/crash helaas: S76 in GOM; Super Puma North Sea X2; S92 in Newfoundland. Wat nog verontrustender is: in zeker twee van de ongelukken lijkt er een mechanische oorzaak te zijn.
Een onmisbaar onderdeel dat er midden in de vlucht mee ophoudt is mijn grootste nachtmerrie.
Ja inderaad je hebt gelijk, het is alweer de 4e... bah :(.
Ben benieuwd wat de oorzaak van deze is.
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rotorusa· 2 aprSnatch, werk jij in de Noordzee? Ik las net het UK AAIB interim report van de Super Puma crash bij de ETAP een paar weken geleden; lijkt CFIT te zijn maar wat ik niet begrijp is, waren ze een routine crew change aan het doen s'nachts?!?
Is het normaal om in het donker in de Noordzee te vliegen? In de GOM doen we dat alleen bij uitzondering, voornamelijk voor medevac.
Is het normaal om in het donker in de Noordzee te vliegen? In de GOM doen we dat alleen bij uitzondering, voornamelijk voor medevac.
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Snatch· 2 aprrotorusa schreef:Snatch, werk jij in de Noordzee? Ik las net het UK AAIB interim report van de Super Puma crash bij de ETAP een paar weken geleden; lijkt CFIT te zijn maar wat ik niet begrijp is, waren ze een routine crew change aan het doen s'nachts?!?
Is het normaal om in het donker in de Noordzee te vliegen? In de GOM doen we dat alleen bij uitzondering, voornamelijk voor medevac.
Ik werk idd in de Noordzee. Ze denken idd dat de eerdere crash van Bond een CFIT was. Het was 's nachts en redelijk slecht weer. Kennelijk zaten ze te twijfelen tussen een ARA en een visual.
Het is zeker normaal om 's avonds na UDP crew changes te doen. We hebben wel strengere weather minima dan overdag.
Snatch
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XDgb14· 5 apr
Sunday, 5 April 2009 12:52 GMT
More helicopter bodies recovered
Seven more bodies have been found inside the fuselage of the helicopter that crashed into the North Sea, killing all 16 men on board.
The wreckage of the Super Puma was located on the sea bed by the Bibby Topaz salvage vessel.
The discovery brings the total number of bodies recovered to 15. Specialist divers are continuing to search for the last missing body.
The helicopter crashed off the Aberdeenshire coast on Wednesday.
Grampian Police said they believed two of the recovered bodies were the pilot and co-pilot, Paul Burnham, 31, from Methlick in Aberdeenshire, and Richard Menzies, 24, of Droitwich Spa in Worcestershire.
A spokesman for the force confirmed: "As a result of the ongoing effort, seven of the remaining eight victims have been recovered by divers onto a vessel at the scene.
"Families of all the victims have been informed of the current situation.
"The search operation for the last remaining body continues."
It was not yet known when the bodies would be taken ashore.
The helicopter was said to be lying about 100m under the surface. It had been returning from BP's Miller oil platform when it crashed some 15 miles off Peterhead at 1400 BST on Wednesday.
It was operated by British firm Bond Offshore Helicopters. BP has said it had discontinued use of the helicopters for an unspecified period.
Diving teams have been working at the scene of the crash since Saturday afternoon trying to locate the wreckage and the cockpit voice and data recorder.
Prayers for the dead men were said at a special service at the St Nicholas Church in Aberdeen on Sunday morning.
Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill said: "The recovery of more bodies is sad, but hopefully it can provide some little comfort and solace for grieving families.
"We know that it's vital that the helicopter is found to try and find out what caused the crash and to learn lessons and seek to avoid further tragedies.
"I know the emergency services have been working extremely hard and doing their absolute best to make sure all the bodies are recovered and identified as quickly as possible."
Grampian Police said on Saturday night they had identified all eight of the bodies which had been recovered by that stage.
The bodies of Brian Barkley, 30, of Aberdeen; James Edwards, 33, of Liverpool; Vernon Elrick, 41, of Aberdeen; and Mihails Zuravskis, 39, from Latvia, were identified on Saturday. All four men were employed by KCA Deutag.
Raymond Doyle, 57, from Cumbernauld; Nairn Ferrier, 40, from Dundee; Warren Mitchell, 38, of Oldmeldrum, Aberdeenshire; and Stuart Wood, 27, from Aberdeen, had been formally identified the previous day.
Mr Doyle and Mr Ferrier also worked for KCA Deutag. Mr Wood was employed by Expro North Sea, while Mr Mitchell was employed by Weatherford UK.
Among the other men who died were four further KCA Deutag employees - Nolan Carl Goble, 34, of Norwich; Gareth Hughes, 53, of Angus; David Rae, 63, of Dumfries and Leslie Taylor, 41, of Kintore, Aberdeenshire.
James Costello, 24, from Aberdeen, who worked for contractor PSN, and Alex Dallas, 62, also from Aberdeen, who was employed by Sparrow Offshores Services, also died.
Bron (BBC.co.uk)
More helicopter bodies recovered
Seven more bodies have been found inside the fuselage of the helicopter that crashed into the North Sea, killing all 16 men on board.
The wreckage of the Super Puma was located on the sea bed by the Bibby Topaz salvage vessel.
The discovery brings the total number of bodies recovered to 15. Specialist divers are continuing to search for the last missing body.
The helicopter crashed off the Aberdeenshire coast on Wednesday.
Grampian Police said they believed two of the recovered bodies were the pilot and co-pilot, Paul Burnham, 31, from Methlick in Aberdeenshire, and Richard Menzies, 24, of Droitwich Spa in Worcestershire.
A spokesman for the force confirmed: "As a result of the ongoing effort, seven of the remaining eight victims have been recovered by divers onto a vessel at the scene.
"Families of all the victims have been informed of the current situation.
"The search operation for the last remaining body continues."
It was not yet known when the bodies would be taken ashore.
The helicopter was said to be lying about 100m under the surface. It had been returning from BP's Miller oil platform when it crashed some 15 miles off Peterhead at 1400 BST on Wednesday.
It was operated by British firm Bond Offshore Helicopters. BP has said it had discontinued use of the helicopters for an unspecified period.
Diving teams have been working at the scene of the crash since Saturday afternoon trying to locate the wreckage and the cockpit voice and data recorder.
Prayers for the dead men were said at a special service at the St Nicholas Church in Aberdeen on Sunday morning.
Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill said: "The recovery of more bodies is sad, but hopefully it can provide some little comfort and solace for grieving families.
"We know that it's vital that the helicopter is found to try and find out what caused the crash and to learn lessons and seek to avoid further tragedies.
"I know the emergency services have been working extremely hard and doing their absolute best to make sure all the bodies are recovered and identified as quickly as possible."
Grampian Police said on Saturday night they had identified all eight of the bodies which had been recovered by that stage.
The bodies of Brian Barkley, 30, of Aberdeen; James Edwards, 33, of Liverpool; Vernon Elrick, 41, of Aberdeen; and Mihails Zuravskis, 39, from Latvia, were identified on Saturday. All four men were employed by KCA Deutag.
Raymond Doyle, 57, from Cumbernauld; Nairn Ferrier, 40, from Dundee; Warren Mitchell, 38, of Oldmeldrum, Aberdeenshire; and Stuart Wood, 27, from Aberdeen, had been formally identified the previous day.
Mr Doyle and Mr Ferrier also worked for KCA Deutag. Mr Wood was employed by Expro North Sea, while Mr Mitchell was employed by Weatherford UK.
Among the other men who died were four further KCA Deutag employees - Nolan Carl Goble, 34, of Norwich; Gareth Hughes, 53, of Angus; David Rae, 63, of Dumfries and Leslie Taylor, 41, of Kintore, Aberdeenshire.
James Costello, 24, from Aberdeen, who worked for contractor PSN, and Alex Dallas, 62, also from Aberdeen, who was employed by Sparrow Offshores Services, also died.
Bron (BBC.co.uk)
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Nitro· 11 apr
Interesant report, vraag me af wat er zich in de cockpit zich af heeft gespeeld en of ze doorhadden dat de Mainrotor gearbox het aan het begeven was, zou de Chipdetector niets aangegeven kunnen hebben en daarmee de MC lights?
Tragisch.
Tragisch.
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Wepz· 11 apr
@Nitro
Ik heb geen kennis van de Super Puma, maar het zou zomaar eens kunnen dat een Chip light niet op het Central Warning Panel zit. Op de Lynx bijvoorbeeld hebben we voor de MGB alleen een Oil press MGB master warning light en geen extra chip detector light. Heb het voorlopige rapport doorgelezen en kon daar zo gauw niks over vinden.
Ik heb geen kennis van de Super Puma, maar het zou zomaar eens kunnen dat een Chip light niet op het Central Warning Panel zit. Op de Lynx bijvoorbeeld hebben we voor de MGB alleen een Oil press MGB master warning light en geen extra chip detector light. Heb het voorlopige rapport doorgelezen en kon daar zo gauw niks over vinden.
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Nitro· 11 apr
Thanks Weps, weer geleerd dat niet iedere MGB of transmissie een Chipdetector heeft.
Natuurlijk het troubleshooten moeten we overlaten aan de heren die er écht verstand van hebben, maar interesant en leerzaam is het zo i zo om er over na te denken. Op de UH60 zitten er een hoop chipdetectors, maar ik ga er dan vanuit dat dat het eerste is wat aantoont dat het in de soep draait...?
Natuurlijk het troubleshooten moeten we overlaten aan de heren die er écht verstand van hebben, maar interesant en leerzaam is het zo i zo om er over na te denken. Op de UH60 zitten er een hoop chipdetectors, maar ik ga er dan vanuit dat dat het eerste is wat aantoont dat het in de soep draait...?
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rotorusa· 12 aprOpvallend dat dit het tweede ongeval in korte tijd is (de S92 in Newfoundland was het eerste) waar een catastrophic failure van de MGB de oorzaak lijkt te zijn.
Het is altijd zo'n fijn gevoel als je bedenkt dat je van alles twee aan boord hebt: twee motoren; twee autopilots; twee GPS systemen; twee liferafts. Tot je je ineens realiseert dat je maar een MGB hebt. Da's even slikken...
Het is altijd zo'n fijn gevoel als je bedenkt dat je van alles twee aan boord hebt: twee motoren; twee autopilots; twee GPS systemen; twee liferafts. Tot je je ineens realiseert dat je maar een MGB hebt. Da's even slikken...
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LNRalph· 18 apr
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Het artikel is wat vaag, ze gebruiken de verschillende maatschappijen door elkaar. Maar als ik het goed begrijp houdt Bond haar Super Puma's van het neergestorte type voorlopig aan de grond, in afwachting van onderzoek. Ze vangen het op met Sikorsky's. CHC zegt dat ze zich geen zorgen maakt en blijft alle SP's gebruiken.
EASA wil dat alle SP's van het neergestorte type onderzocht worden.
Het artikel is wat vaag, ze gebruiken de verschillende maatschappijen door elkaar. Maar als ik het goed begrijp houdt Bond haar Super Puma's van het neergestorte type voorlopig aan de grond, in afwachting van onderzoek. Ze vangen het op met Sikorsky's. CHC zegt dat ze zich geen zorgen maakt en blijft alle SP's gebruiken.
EASA wil dat alle SP's van het neergestorte type onderzocht worden.
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